SLV reddit wallstreetbets TheHappyHawaiian silver futures

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En reddit hay movimiento con ciertas acciones yankees (GameStop (GME), BB…); parece que ha llegado el momento de la plata 😀

https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/l6novm/the_real_dd_on_slv_the_worlds_biggest_short/

The real DD on SLV, the worlds biggest short squeeze is possible and we can make history
Here is the longer DD for the short squeeze case for SLV, a follow-up from my shorter post a few hours ago. Note that I talk in first person as this is something I’m going to do. Everyone is free to do as they individually please and copy my trade if they’d like to. I think it’s absurd that forces at be think this forum is manipulating by posting publicly but that’s where we are at right now.

First things first, I’m not doing this until the GME rise is done. I am long GME but am going long SLV immediately after.

If you just want to know what to buy skip to the end

I present 2 investment DDs in this post, the short squeeze and the fundamentals. If you want to see what to buy

The short squeeze:

Buy SLV shares (or PSLV shares) and SLV call options to force physical delivery of silver to the SLV vaults.

The silver futures market has oscillated between having roughly 100-1 and 500-1 ratio of paper traded silver to physical silver, but lets call it 250-1 for now. This means that for every 250 ounces in open interest in the futures market, only 1 actually gets delivered. Most traders would rather settle with cash rather than take delivery of thousands of ounces of silver and have to figure out to store and transport it in the future.

The people naked shorting silver via the futures markets are a couple of large banks and making them pay dearly for their over leveraged naked shorts would be incredible. It’s not Melvin capital on the other side of this trade, its JP Morgan. Time to get some payback for the bailouts and manipulation they’ve done for decades (look up silver manipulation fines that JPM has paid over the years).

The way the squeeze could occur is by forcing a much higher percentage of the futures contracts to actually deliver physical silver. There is very little silver in the COMEX vaults or available to actually be use to deliver, and if they have to start buying en masse on the open market they will drive the price massively higher. There is no way to magically create more physical silver in the world that is ready to be delivered. With a stock you can eventually just issue more shares if the price rises too much, but this simply isn’t the case here. The futures market is kind of the wild west of the financial world. Real commodities are being traded, and if you are short, you literally have to deliver thousands of ounces of silver per contract if the holder on the other side demands it. If you remember oil going negative back in May, that was possible because futures are allowed to trade to their true value. They aren’t halted and that’s what will make this so fun when the true squeeze happens.

Edit for more detail: let’s say there’s one futures seller who gets unlucky and gets the buyer who actually wants to take delivery. He doesn’t have the silver and realizes it’s all of a sudden damn difficult to find some physical silver. He throws up his hands and just goes long a matching number of futures contracts and will demand actual delivery on those. Problem solved because he has now matched the demanding buyer with a new seller. The issue is that the new seller has the same issue and does the exact same thing. This is how the cascade effect of a meltup occurs. All the naked shorts trying to offload their position to someone who actually has some silver. My goal is to ensure that I have the silver and won’t sell to them until silver is at a far higher price due to the desperation.

The silver market is much larger than GME in terms of notional value, but there is very little physical silver actually readily available (think about the difference between total shares and the shares in the active float for a stock), and the paper silver trading hands in the futures market is hundreds of times larger than what is available. Thus when they are forced to actually deliver physical silver it will create a massive short squeeze where an absurd amount of silver will be sought after (to fulfill their contractually obligated delivery) with very little available to actually buy. They are naked shorting silver and will have to cover all at once and the float as a percentage of the total silver stock globally is truly minuscule.

 

The fundamentals:

The current gold to silver ratio is 73-1. Meaning the price of gold per ounce is 73 times the price of silver. Naturally occurring silver is only 18.75 times as common as gold, so this ratio of 73-1 is quite high. Until the early 20th century, silver prices were pegged at a 15-1 ratio to gold in the US because this ratio was relatively known even then. In terms of current production, the ratio is even lower at 8-1. Meaning the world is only producing 8 ounces of silver for each newly produced ounce of gold.

Global industry has been able to get away with producing so little new silver for so long because governments have dumped silver on the market for 80 years, but now their silver vaults are empty. At the end of WW2 government vaults globally contained 10 billion ounces of silver, but as we moved to fiat currency and away from precious metal backed currencies, the amount held by governments has decreased to only 0.24 billion ounces as they dumped their supply into the market. But this dumping is done now as their remaining supply is basically nil.

This 0.24 billion ounces represents only 8% of the total supply of only 3 billion ounces stored as investment globally. This means that 92% of that gold is held privately by institutions and by millions of boomer gold and silver bugs who have been sitting on meager gains for decades. These boomers aren’t going to sell no matter what because they see their silver cache as part of their doomsday prepper supplies. It’s locked away in bunkers they built 500 miles from their house. Also, with silver at $23 an ounce currently, this means all of the worlds investment grade silver only has a total market cap of $70 billion. For comparison the investment grade gold in the world is worth roughly $6 trillion. This is because most of the silver produced each year actually gets used, as I have mentioned. $70 billion sounds like a lot, but we don’t have to buy all that much for the price to go up a lot.

**If the squeeze happens, it would be like 40 years worth of their gains in 4 months **

The reason that only 8 ounces of silver are produced for every 1 ounce of gold in today’s world is because there aren’t really any good naturally occurring silver deposits left in the world. Silver is more common than gold in the earth’s crust, but it is spread very thin. Thus nearly every ounce of silver produces is actually a byproduct of mining for other metals such as gold or copper. This means that even as the silver price skyrockets, it wont be easy to increase the supply of silver being produced. Even if new mines were to be constructed, it could take years to come online.

Finally, most of this newly created silver supply each year is used for productive purposes rather than kept for investment. It is used in electronics, solar panels, and jewelry for the most part. This demand wont go away if the silver price rises, so the short sellers will be trying to get their hands on a very small slice of newly minted silver. The solar market is also growing quickly and political pressure to increase solar and electric vehicles could provide more industrial demand.

The other part of the story is the faster moving piece and that is the inflation and currency debasement fear portion. The government and the fed are printing money like crazy debasing the value of the dollar, so investors look for real assets like precious metals to hide out in, driving demand for silver. The $1.9 trillion stimulus passing in a month or two could be a good catalyst. All this money combined with the reopening of the economy could cause some solid inflation to occur, and once inflation starts it often feeds on itself.

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What to buy:

I will be putting 50% directly into SLV shares, and 50% into the $35 strike SLV calls expiring 4/16. This way the SLV purchase creates a groundswell into silver immediately that then rockets through a gamma squeeze as SLV approaches $35. Price target of $75 for SLV by end of April if the short squeeze happens.

Edit: for the part of your purchases going into shares, some people recommend PSLV because they think SLV might start lying about having the silver in their vault. Or that the custodian will be double counting, ie claiming that the same silver belongs to multiple people (banking on the fact that people wont all try to get their silver at once). So if you buy SLV shares and calls, that’s great. But I think it could be prudent for us to buy options in SLV (no options on PSLV) and shares in PSLV. It all depends on how paranoid you want to be. There is a lot of paranoia in the precious metals world.

Alternate options:

– buying physical silver; this also works but you pay a premium to buy and sell so its less efficient and you take fewer silver ounces off of the market because of the premium you pay

– going long futures for February or March; if you are a rich bastard and can actually take physical delivery of 1000s of ounces of silver by all means do so. But if you simply settle for cash you are actually part of the problem. We need actual physical delivery, which is what SLV demands and is why SLV is the way to go unless you are going to take delivery

– miners; I don’t recommend buying miners as part of this trade. Miners will absolutely go up if SLV goes up, but buying them doesn’t create the squeeze in the actual silver market. Furthermore, most silver miners only derive 30-50% of their revenue from silver anyways, so eventually SLV will outperform them as it gets high enough (and each marginal SLV dollar only increases miner profits by a smaller and smaller percentage)

Details on SLV physical settlement:

When SLV issues shares, the custodian is forced to true up their vaults with the proportional amount of silver daily. From the SLV prospectus:

“An investment in Shares is: Backed by silver held by the Custodian on behalf of the Trust. The Shares are backed by the assets of the Trust. The Trustee’s arrangements with the Custodian contemplate that at the end of each business day there can be in the Trust account maintained by the Custodian no more than 1,100 ounces of silver in an unallocated form. The bulk of the Trust’s silver holdings is represented by physical silver, identified on the Custodian’s or, if applicable, sub-custodian’s, books in allocated and unallocated accounts on behalf of the Trust and is held by the Custodian in London, New York and other locations that may be authorized in the future.”

Join me brothers. Lets take silver to the moon and take on the biggest and baddest manipulators in the world. Please post rocket emojis in the comments as desired.

Disclaimer: do your own research, make your own decisions, everything here is a guess and hypothetical and nothing is guaranteed, not a financial advisor, I have ADHD and maybe other things too.

Bear case: silver does tend to sell off if the broader market plunges so it’s not immune to broad market sell off. It’s also the most manipulated market in the world so we are facing some tough competition on the short side

Algunos comentarios curiosos

SS3Brotenks 15 hours agoEureka!Silver

Melvin is one thing. Fucking with JPM is another. They’ll buy reddit and nuke it from the internet.

Q_DOOKERMAN15 hours agoGoldJPM will literally make all of Reddit illegal and have all 3 million people on this sub arrested and put in jail before they let us take em to the cleaners on this
Not surprising from a corp that admitted to manipulating markets and payed out $920b for their wrongdoing. When you can afford to lose $920b and keep on going, you’re running on evil not fumes
I didnt read any of that but silver is a buy simply on the money printing that’s been going on alone. It will 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀 whether it gets any traction here or not. Might as well jump aboard.
100% agree with you for post-GME. I’m an old balls millennial who started learning about the massive Silver manipulation right around 2008. In 2010 I think it spiked again to almost $50 then got crushed down by JPM.

I was thinking earlier this week that if the autists got ahold of SLV it would be lights out for JPM…. Which I don’t know is a good thing… You know, like anarchy in the streets when the worlds largest bank folds…

ahhh yes
bunker tons of silver in my yard
understood
We have the whole financial media industry trying to silence us and campaigning for SEC/legal action because we are winning against Melvin, a company rarely in headlines or big discussion before all of this.

Op wants to take on jPM who has all but been caught red handed (allegedly)manipulating the silver trade before. We will have actual gestapo coming for us.

I’m not saying individuals shouldn’t do this, I’m saying use a VPN and use your gme money to purchase a ticket the moon for safety first.

Man I pray for this day! Honestly pray. They have manipulated gold and silver for years and years. JP Morgan ours $1b in fines this year and laughs it of. This would break a whole system way way way more than GME
Do you know how powerful it’s gonna feel to seriously move the price of silver?
This really gonna happen at every possible oppurtunity? At this rate r/wallstreetbets will overtake the giants and literally control the US economy by 2030
Manipulation of physical precious metal markets has happened before and I don’t recall it ending well. The government or the banks are vested in suppressing the price. This would be a step up in our crusaded against the big boys. That said, you son of a bitch, I’m in.
Is it crazy to try and get everyone to buy physical?
SlV calls bought yesterday before close up 700%!! Slv March 19 $30
YOU SERVED THE DESSERT BEFORE WE EVEN FINISHED THE ENTREE. NEXT WEEK
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DO YOU RETARDS KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS?312 million ounces are naked short.
This isn’t a stock so there will be no offering. Or they’ll have to dig it out of the fucking ground. This is a real short squeeze. AMC issued 96 million more shares yesterday. I’m not saying anything wrong with that, it will keep them in business. But this is pure short squeeze, there will be no way to weasel out of this.
TO THE MOON.
This has the potential to ruin the whole financial system and possibly create a recession… I’m in! 🙌
Great DD! Often silver is inadvertently thrown away rather than being recycled like gold. And as you mentioned, a lot silver is obtained through the mining of copper rather than actual silver mines proper.
COMEX or CBOT for straight futures contracts. This could actually be a thing in the SLV ETF. If Stonks do start to crack precious metals are a flight to safety trade and if inflation numbers start to come in hot silver would have some tailwinds. Gold has already printed fresh highs in comparison to silver from the last big ramp in 2011.
One more thing OP forgot to mention. Once everything reopens and the velocity of money goes up again, inflation will pick up and exceed 2.5%. Once this happens people will start buying silver for sure. Buy and hold silver until everything is reopened! 🚀🚀🚀

Probablemente esto no sea más que un pump & dump de libro, pero ¿y si…? (We, the people…)  😉

Todos a comprar unas moneditas de plata…a ver si el delivery del COMEX se queda seco, jeje

P.S. Parece que dos grandes “dealers” se van quedando sin existencias y/o esperan que mañana lunes (esta noche abre la negociación en Asia) abra el mercado papel con un “gap” (hueco) al alza importante 

https://www.apmex.com/

Due to unprecedented demand on physical silver products, we are unable to accept any additional orders on a large number of products, until global markets open Sunday evening.

https://www.jmbullion.com/

Attention Customers: Due to increased order volume, we are currently experiencing shipping delays of 5-10 days from cleared payment.

P.S. II  Un par de artículos referentes al tema de cabecera

https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/von-greyerz-paper-silver-toxic

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2021-02-03/reddit-residue-silver-3-february

fakes gold & silver coins

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Saliendo del 2020…aunque hasta el rabo todo es toro

Otros enlaces relacionados con el tema de cabecera…

https://moneditis.com/2020/09/18/most-counterfeited-u-s-and-world-coins/

https://moneditis.com/2020/08/09/mas-falsas-monedas/

Un par de páginas de empresa tecnológica que vende “aparataje” para detección de falsas (monedas y/o lingotes de metales preciosos) donde nos muestra variados ejemplos de timo metálico.

http://aurotest.de/counterfeit_silver.htm

http://aurotest.de/counterfeit_gold.htm

http://www.aurotest.de/news.htm

Mi alemán es prácticamente inexistente pero el traductor ayuda bastante

P.S. https://www.numismaticnews.net/article/record-silver-shortage-in-2020

“…The forecasted combined net result of physical supply and demand is a 2020 surplus of 31.5 million ounces. However, that figure is not the bottom line. In 2020, it looks like net investment in exchange-traded products (especially exchange-traded funds like SLV) will reach 350 million ounces. When you factor in this demand, which is touted as physical demand, but may be largely on paper), the net silver shortage for 2020 could be 318.50 million ounces!…”