Pesos Mexicanos oro + Silver Stack

Enlace a mi tienda en ebid. Iré subiendo más moneditas de mi colección

https://stores.ebid.net/moneditis

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Esta entrada le pertenece a un amigo, que se ha tomado la molestia de grabar el siguiente vídeo. Gracias

Poco que añadir, salvo las páginas del Krause a las que hace referencia Mr. X  😉

Los precios de catálogo no están actualizados, aunque si lo estuvieran siempre es mejor acudir al mercado de abastos metalero para su comprobación y compra/venta.   Por ejemplo   https://www.lavetadeoro.com/   aunque no sólo

Hace 50 años estas monedas de oro tenían un mayor sobrespot / estaban más valoradas

Aquí   https://moneditis.com/2022/02/05/50-pesos-oro-mexico-1944-estudio-conclusion/   estudio sobre 50 pesos mexicanos

Además de los pesos en oro, también los hay de plata…pero esa es otra historia por contar…

P.S. Continuando con el Post Scriptum de la entrada anterior, ahondando en lo que parece una alta demanda de plata por parte de la industria y de los inversores

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2022-10-28/update-silver-just-getting-warmed-whats-next

«Right now the global bank and regulatory community has much bigger, more important fish to fry than the little old stupid silver market. Ultimately leaders do not care about price, they care about speed of rise and headline risk that conveys they are losing control of financial markets. Therefore true price will be the last thing to reflect value as it will not happen overnight, and shorts will use all their considerable power to slow it. Let them. Ultimately the smart banks will be long; just like you and the government. Structural problems can’t be spoofed away.  The only thing that can stop this eventuality of repriced Silver is another great depression in our opinion.»

keepcalm

«This is about a plateau price for Silver in the $50s with launching pad prices higher over years. This is a revaluation from real necessary global demand, fractured supply chains, and a shortage of good collateral.  It will merely start with a paper short squeeze. This is not AMC or BBBY squeeze that can be printed away. It is a much bigger manifestation of structural deficit. Meme stocks were a warm up of opportunists taking advantage of structural imbalances for short term gains. Silver is a real market. The world just doesn’t know it yet.»

Leyendo los comentarios del enlace anterior encuentro este otro enlace…

https://bagholder.substack.com/p/exposing-fraud-in-the-silver-market

«Please take a deep breath and allow the following two sentences to land:

The market is in backwardation because those of us currently holding physical silver, who are being offered the “risk-free” immediate profits plus interest, do not believe for one second the paper promises to get our silver back in the future will be honored. Simply put, the diamond-handed physical longs are calling the bluff on the paper promises offered by the futures market.

 For decades now, the futures market has dictated the spot price of metals. Those days are coming to an end. Just this past week, one of the country’s biggest bullion dealers (Apmex) started waving yet another Red flag by putting out a standing offer of Spot + $10 on all the Silver Eagles you want to sell them. That’s $30 an ounce for what the futures market is telling you should cost $20. A 50% premium!! Ask yourself, which price of silver is more accurate: the price the futures market tells you it is, or the price offered by the guy with an open checkbook?»

«Bagholder’s years of experience in the silver market lead him to believe the 50% premium on offer will not be anywhere near sufficient to bring enough supply into the market to meet current demand. TPTB are just chumming the waters with that offer. Bag would suggest the 50% premium to spot currently on offer (which was only 20% in March – link below) will soon be 100%, then 200%, and so on…. They could offer $200 an ounce, and it still won’t balance supply & demand.»

https://bagholder.substack.com/p/learn-from-the-titans

«who cares about the nickel market anyway? It’s small potatoes. Yes, that is true, except for the fact a precedent has now been set. Thanks to the default in the nickel market, there is a tried and true mechanism in place for the exchange to deal with the imminent default in the Gold & Silver Markets. Once again, it will be JP (and some other banks) who are on the short side of the trade, this time to the tune of 100’s of billions. They will need some bailing out from the exchange and likely the government as well. Bagholder is sure they will get it, and you paper longs, if you’re lucky…lol… just might get your dollar back.

With all this in mind, here is your nickel’s worth of free advice: If you hold paper gold or paper silver via the LME, CME, SLV, or GLD, these entities have shown you with the nickel market default, who they really are. You could not ask for a clearer illustration. Take heed. You have been warned – get out NOW, and turn it into physical metal. Otherwise, you better lube up, cause there is an industrial size reaming headed your way.»

https://bagholder.substack.com/p/nickels-worth-of-free-advice

Y puedo seguir enlazando y enlazando sobre las bondades de la plata física…peeeero (siempre hay un pero) voy a un comentario del siguiente y último enlace donde se pone en duda el punto de vista mayoritario de este post scriptum

I read the post you published back in 2013 regarding the silver market then…and where we are today. What is the difference in your sentiment from 2013 to today and why do you think this silver shortage is real.

I contacted an online Silver company I have purchased from in the past and asked if I could buy a few dozen 1000oz Silver bars…the rep said sure. I asked for delivery to a depository…he said no problem. I asked if i could do the transfer today…he said I could, provided he wired funds were in their account before the end of the day.

I see the same thing happening in consumer goods. The news says there are shortages all over the country, yet when I go to Costco, BJ’s, Giant and some local produce stores, they are loaded to the gills with inventory and are constantly replenishing.

So, are these shortages imagined, hyped up, created or real? I know unicorns aren’t real, yet its difficult to discern what is real in the real world…is this by design, meant to confuse and obfuscate?

Disinformation is destructive to those looking to make decisions…and verifying is always a must, when the information defies, what one sees with his very own eyes.

Interested in your thoughts…

https://bagholder.substack.com/p/silver-the-ticking-bomb

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Respuestas:

The difference between today & 2013 is the silver shortage is even greater, as evidenced by the continually rising premiums on both sides of the trade. In 2013 the premiums on the ask side had just started to rise, while there was very little increase on the bid side premiums. This tells me they wanted to scare away potential buyers, but still had enough supply coming in they didn’t need to increase their bids. Silver eagles in the 90’s with silver at $5 were bid spot, ask 50 cents over (10% premium to spot)….by 2013 with silver at $22, bid was still spot ask was $5 over (20% premium to spot). Today with silver at $22, bid is spot + $3.50, ask is $8 over (35% premium). Couple important points, 1. the rising bid price, which was not present (or just starting) in 2013 says they are running out of supply. 2. the continually rising ask price, means they do not want people getting long. 3. It is not just eagles, 10 oz bars, 100 oz bars, rounds, 90% – they are all bid strong, and in short supply, guaranteed. ….. As for your rep with the commercial 1000 oz bars, that is the one kind of silver still readily available, as the public does not like them (they are like 70 pounds – i use one as a doorstop) – ask him if he has a 100 monster boxes for sale AND when can you expect delivery, if he does and delivery is immediate, I want his name…… As for shortages in grocery stores, I see some here in Arizona, but I suspect most of it is BS designed to explain away rising prices.

 
 

Thanks…

I did speak to the rep about 100oz bars, which make sense, if redeeming them in smaller quantities is something one decides to do in the future. The price of rounds, either Maple leaf or Eagles is obnoxious…I won’t buy based on principle and principal. I didn’t go any further asking about monster boxes, just because the price point was not reasonable.

100oz bars are more to my liking, although moving a lot of them isn’t.

Are you a buyer in this market? Or do we still have some blood letting to go in the overall markets?

 
 
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Notice how the high prices relative to spot discourage you from getting long… Always a buyer, for the right price….

 
 
Jan 29·edited Jan 29

I am going long on Silver, just not in the retail packaged rounds, which command the higher premium. If those who know something big is coming around the corner in the silver market, not premium is going to deter them from buying. How many times in the past have we heard «this time is different?» Too many…and every time its the same regurgitated crap, year in year out.

I find it interesting how much time has passed between the first article you wrote on Silver, to this last one. Question is…how many more years are we going to wait until the charade in the PM markets is dismantled? The curtains have been pulled back exposing the shenanigans, yet nothing has changed. What ever happened to the Basel III implementation? Wasn’t it supposed to due away with the unallocated position limits which were used to suppress the prices of gold and silver?

This time is no different…at least, not from my perspective. The fact 1000oz bars are still available in volume, tells me the big players aren’t buying. If they were, the supply would be swallowed up by those who are already cornering the market. I can only imagine what 800,000,000 oz of Silver looks like.

Como veis, la evolución en los precios en plata física es lenta pero segura…sobrespot creciente pero el cuándo del cierre del mercado papel es complicao…Habrá que seguir esperando…o no. Que cada cual saque sus propias conclusiones y haga lo que estime oportuno; yo lo tengo claro.

¡Suerte!

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fakes gold & silver coins

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https://stores.ebid.net/moneditis

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Saliendo del 2020…aunque hasta el rabo todo es toro

Otros enlaces relacionados con el tema de cabecera…

https://moneditis.com/2020/09/18/most-counterfeited-u-s-and-world-coins/

https://moneditis.com/2020/08/09/mas-falsas-monedas/

Un par de páginas de empresa tecnológica que vende «aparataje» para detección de falsas (monedas y/o lingotes de metales preciosos) donde nos muestra variados ejemplos de timo metálico.

http://aurotest.de/counterfeit_silver.htm

http://aurotest.de/counterfeit_gold.htm

http://www.aurotest.de/news.htm

Mi alemán es prácticamente inexistente pero el traductor ayuda bastante

P.S. https://www.numismaticnews.net/article/record-silver-shortage-in-2020

«…The forecasted combined net result of physical supply and demand is a 2020 surplus of 31.5 million ounces. However, that figure is not the bottom line. In 2020, it looks like net investment in exchange-traded products (especially exchange-traded funds like SLV) will reach 350 million ounces. When you factor in this demand, which is touted as physical demand, but may be largely on paper), the net silver shortage for 2020 could be 318.50 million ounces!…»

 

Análisis Plata Metal

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2014/11/3_Silver_Is_One_Of_The_Greatest_Opportunities_In_World_History.html

November 3, 2014

Embry“I’m focused on silver, which is something I strongly believe represents an unbelievable opportunity.  Right now the open interest is at all-time highs, despite the price having been pounded for the past six months on the back end of a 3 1/2 year price decline of nearly 70 percent….

“Normally when there is a price decline like we have recently seen on the Comex, the longs are flushed out and the shorts reap their profits.  But despite continued pressure on the price of silver, the longs are not capitulating.  If anything they are digging in and the open interest is growing, which is unheard of.

The open interest in the December trading contract, which matures in 17 trading days, dwarfs the available inventory on the exchange.  So it will be very interesting to see how this situation unfolds.  When you put that into the context of the fact that silver is now trading dramatically below what it takes to extract an ounce from the ground for a pure silver producer, it really demonstrates the absurdity of the situation.

With a price that has been under so much pressure, this would normally suggest that silver demand has been weak and the market is being overwhelmed by supply, but that’s not the case.  The demand for silver coins from the U.S. Mint has risen dramatically and there has been continued demand from the industrial side, which takes up the lion’s share of supply.

People have to remember that in the aftermath of World War II there were massive inventories of silver in the world.  And following the Hunt Brothers attempt to corner the market in the 1970s, above ground inventories remained huge.  But all of these above ground inventories have been absorbed as physical demand has outstripped mine supply for many, many years.

Also, the majority of silver mine supply comes as a result of base metals mining.  With the world now moving inexorably toward a recession/depression, and with excess supply everywhere, the demand for base metals is going to decline sharply.  This will curtail production and mean there will be less silver byproduct.

So I see an extremely positive supply/demand situation building here at a price that is remarkably discounted for silver.  What doesn’t get discussed is the fact that not too long ago roughly 1/3 of the industrial demand for silver was related to photography.  But all of that demand from photography has disappeared and been replaced by solar demand, medicinal demand, etc..  And these new sources of demand continue to grow well beyond what we used to see from photography.

But because the paper manipulation is beyond remarkable, silver remains as undervalued an asset as I have ever seen.  As an example, in the last 135 trading days the silver price has declined in the thinly traded access market 130 times at the open.  So to be clear, in the early hours of the east coast of the United States silver has declined at the opening of trading 130 out of the last 135 trading days.  That is preposterous.  And some of these declines have been precipitous.

This is purely manipulation by high-frequency and algorithm programs and it sets the tone for each trading day and permits the powers that be to keep the pressure on the price.  This is all part of how they attempt to keep the public away from gold and silver.  But gold and silver are the only real money and it remains the arch enemy of the failing fiat currency system.  So the central bankers are in overdrive here trying to discredit gold and silver.

Sadly the Western governments and central banks have failed their citizens and are now trying one last time to keep things afloat.  Unfortunately they are going to fail, and all investors can do as that day of failure rapidly approaches is to own physical gold and silver in order to protect themselves.  This is the most dangerous time in world history, both economically and financially — strictly on the leverage in the financial system — and the sad truth is that I don’t even think we are going to recognize the world when this is over.”

Una fuente de información más. Relativizando la visión un tanto extrema de Sprott y colegas…aunque me quedo con la duda de la ecuación producción-demanda-coste-beneficio

Anterior http://usawatchdog.com/gold-and-silver-end-game-here-john-embry/